No distance

Web assembly is the future

Show Notes:

Mark had a great b-day party with his friends at a 熱少. Very unlike the situation where Justin lives in California, there were no masks, no social distancing and instead friendly old Taiwanese men at the restaurant joining in to offer happy birthday cheers.

It was hard not to think about the gulf of effectiveness between Taiwan's handling of the epidemic and the US's. We don't like to bore anyone with politics, but delved into it for 12 minutes following realization of how different our situations were. We talked about the epidemic, protests of police violence, health care, taxes and infrastructure.

Back to tech topics, we talked about the promise of web assembly, coding in WASM directly vs using Rust bindgen and how it could get adoption not just in browsers but also IoT.

Justin's still working on his bootcamp and working out a "level up" game for new founders—first get traffic, then find the right people and finally learn how to help them, make an appropriate product and sell it.

Which is easier to work on if you only have small chunks of time, code or written content? We disagree. But, our podcast traffic is growing... even though Mark still hasn't deployed to the site. He has started making some short clip videos from our discussions and sharing them on YT with some success.


Justin's goals for next time

  • Get the Nugget bootcamp ready for review

Mark's goals for next time

  • No junk food for 6 of the next 7 days
  • Publish two videos for Alchemist Camp
  • Get some version of launched

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recorded on 2020-06-03



@Mark: I've seen a couple of interesting presentations on Microsoft's take on a WebAssembly framework/project Blazor ( ). It seems like an exciting new area for the web...I'm not sure what all I'd use it for at this time, but I believe that in a few years there will be few big projects that don't leverage it in some way. Even if your current projects won't directly benefit, something else you'll be working on will be able to.

@Justin: You mentioned an imagined interview with Andrew Warner as a way to think about how to start properly. The company I work for has been diving into visioning a bit for new projects, it seems like a fresh way of looking at things, by thinking about the end state and how you got there. Unfortunately, I can also see how those with a gift of writing can make a project out to be a lot simpler and much easier than the reality of it.

42:27 Hey, I'm famous!! Intro music email sent!

Justin: Simplicity is really difficult -- this makes me think about a quote that's often attributed to Mark Twain "I have only made this letter longer because I have not had the time to make it shorter." I also thought it was Twain, but just looked it up, and it seems like it was Blaise Pascal.

FYI: The comment box is way too small for fools like myself.

- Danilo Celic · 1 month ago

Hey, I'm famous!! Intro music email sent!

@Danilo Your comment is our #3 growth channel after just Apple Podcasts and YouTube! The fame is well deserved.

I've read about Blazor, too. Neither C# nor Golang will be able to make the same small .wasm executables Rust or C++ can, but it appears that MS has put an impressive amount of effort into making Blazor a great dev experience and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a lot of traction. I kind of feel the same way you do about it. Learning WebAssembly will probably benefit something I build at some point.

The comment box is way too small for fools like myself.

It's not so small now! I've just deployed a larger one.

- Mark · 1 month ago

Mark, thanks for expanding the comment field

Feature request for the site: I was on this page wanted to comment, and I needed to log in, but when I completed the login, I was sent to the home page, and had to navigate back to this page to Be able to comment.

- Danilo Celic · 1 month ago

Sure, that's an easy one. Now when you log in, it will redirect you back to the page where you just were.

- Mark · 1 month ago

@Danilo - Love that Mark Twain Blaise Pascal quote!

@Mark - I like the show notes you do :)

- Justin Vincent · 1 month ago